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Post by Swerve on Mar 22, 2011 22:33:08 GMT -5
Swerve was there for the first broadcast of the video on Gillanan III, like others in the room, and he had time then to be shocked. Now it just agitates him. He shifts his weight uncomfortably in bridling outrage that such a thing exists.
He says nothing, merely grinding his jaw and spinning his wheels, irritated in an omnidirectional way.
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Shanodin
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Post by Shanodin on Mar 23, 2011 19:11:19 GMT -5
Botanica cuts her eyes toward Twin Twist.
Yes, you could, she thinks, but you're not. Ah well, it will all be in the open soon enough.
To the group at large, she says, "The Matrix in most realities that posses it is a powerful artifact often carried by a chosen leader. It is said by some to house a small sliver of Primus's soul, while others will name it nothing more than a weapon or repository of knowledge. Or a key," she adds as an afterthought.
"It can be argued that it is all those things."
"As mentioned, Rodimus was able to defeat the Devourer in his reality, but could not destroy him. Instead, Rodimus was forced to trap Unicron instead."
"Inside the Matrix."
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Post by Riot on Mar 26, 2011 5:21:48 GMT -5
“Lemme get this straight, the spark, well I guess the spark because the actual body of a planetsize being is just too out there, is trapped within this Matrix and we might have this universe’s incarnation of Unicron out there is the deep black somewhere as well? Is that right, we may have two world eaters?” Riot sounds just a little shaken and worried, a faint edge to his voice that shows the spikes on his shoulders for the superficial ornamentation that they were.
And he hasn’t even heard the theory where Unicron is a dimensional singularity and the two possible Unicrons here are actually one and the same – and one might bring the other home for dinner.
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Post by Tessan Toov on Mar 26, 2011 13:17:16 GMT -5
Twin Twist blurts, "I knew that!"
Then he covers his face with his face with his hands, sits down on the floor cross-legged, and groans.
Stupid, stupid, stupid!
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Post by Elita-1 on Mar 26, 2011 18:02:46 GMT -5
Frowning, Elita considers what Botanica just said. Her brow furrows and she asks the plantformer.
"But... according to some of the information I looked up on his Unicron thing, he's... some sort of god? If he can't be destroyed in one universe, maybe it's because he... still exists in another?"
"Common mythology trends tend to treat such Greater Beings as cross-universal constants after all."
Still Skippable
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Post by Ramulus on Mar 26, 2011 19:48:39 GMT -5
Unicron is large, mean and a disaster. He's currently trapped in the matrix in the chest of Disco-Inferno Prime in the command chain of this group.
Ramulus looks very unhappy. He looks quite agitated. "What happens if the matrix is destroyed? Not saying that we should do that... but it's good wondering about what happens when physical items exceed their life expectancy."
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Post by Swerve on Mar 28, 2011 11:25:23 GMT -5
Botanica's announcement would be enough to send Swerve into a fit all on its own and the shocked silence of his engine is telling, but then Twin Twist follows up the gut-punch with a slap in the face. Swerve rounds on him without hesitation, snarling.
"You knew?!" the racer demands, staying where he is instead of launching himself at Twin Twist only because he has mellowed somewhat in his time here. Two years ago, it would have gone headlong into a brawl.
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Post by Shanodin on Mar 28, 2011 12:06:51 GMT -5
Botanica waits for the inevitable mixture of reactions, intending to continue when then furor dies down. Swerve's accusatory question prompts her to fix the racer with a warning look.
"Yes, Twin Twist knew. He is from Rodimus's reality, and comes from much further down that timeline. He was asked by command to keep this information to himself until we could decide on a course of action."
Hopefully, the prodigious use of "we" and the indication of a united front will pull Swerve's ire from the Wrecker to Botanica, thereby nipping any brawls in the bud.
"In Rodimus's reality, nearly everyone- Autobot or Decepticon- knows about this. The decision was originally made to keep this fact hidden because we feared for the morale of our company. However, Twin Twist's arrival reminded Rodimus that it wasn't a secret in his reality. After some discussion, it was decided it would be better that you all hear it from command, rather than risk a Decepticon revealing the fact first."
Botanica then moves to answer the others's questions and points.
"I would use the term 'soul' before I would use 'spark,' Riot. Rodimus's reality does not have sparks, you will recall, and even then- a spark can be removed and caged. Unicron's essence as I understand it is more... ephemeral. As the Matrix is designed to retain some portion of its bearer's essence after death, it is more suited to containing such a thing."
"I also do not know if the Matrix actually can be destroyed, Ramulus. Purged yes, and Twin Twist tells us that Rodimus does manage in his time to do that and defeat Unicron. But destroyed?" Botanica shakes her head, "I doubt it."
Elita's commentary earns a very serious look from Botanica. her shoulders slump every so slightly. Botanica had hoped no one would pick up on that possibility.
"It is a possibility, yes," is all the answer she gives the cadet.
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Post by Skyfire on Mar 28, 2011 12:29:12 GMT -5
Skyfire has been very intently listening and processing Botanica's information. "Does our Rodimus, here and now, have a plan for dealing with the entity he keeps? Does he have a plan for the one roaming this universe?"
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Post by Swerve on Apr 2, 2011 9:01:27 GMT -5
OOC: Skipping a boatload of people due to timeout. Also, probably out of thread next round unless stopped.
Swerve pivots on one foot, looking from Twin Twist to Botanica without the slightest change in his outraged cast. If anything, the tremor in his shoulders and arms worsens. His hands grasp at empty air, his wheels spin furiously, and his engine makes inarticulate grinding, sputtering sounds as he tries and fails to come up with words, mouth working in silence. He starts to point accusatorily at Botanica, then stops, hand clenching into a fist instead. It takes a lot of effort to bring his arm back down to his side.
Abruptly, he snaps – almost audibly – and barges toward the door.
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Post by Long Haul on Apr 2, 2011 18:44:21 GMT -5
Long Haul is frankly too stunned to really say anything for a good bit. He's a pretty simple robot. He moves things around. He makes sure things are where they need to be. He builds, and he fixes. Transforming planets? Gods? The Matrix? That's so far beyond him. He doesn't even understand the vaguest implications of what Botanica is talking about, never mind how it really even effects him.
He scratches his head and tilts it, and is otherwise content to listen... until Swerve starts to storm out. His optics open wide and he stands up. "Swerve? Don't think the meeting's over." He glances at Botanica. If she gives any indication, he'll attempt to intercept the racer (this may not work, because he is much slower than Swerve).
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Post by Shanodin on Apr 3, 2011 10:17:17 GMT -5
"Let him go, Long Haul," Botanica says tiredly as Swerve starts to storm off, "He and I will finish this discussion in private, since he is not willing to voice his concerns in a crowd."
"As for Unicron- the one native to this reality- we will eventually face him. There is no avoiding it. We stand against him by the very nature of our existence. Hopefully when that time comes we will have allies." Botancia doesn't conjecture as to who those allies might be. They have found no indication of Transformers in this reality, the Sharkticon toys of the Quintessons not withstanding.
"And yes, Rodimus does know what needs to be done on that quarter. It will just take time. There was an... incident in his reality that allowed Unicron to be a bit more pushy within Rodimus than the other echoes. Unicron has gotten free once, using Rodimus's body to remake his own, but in the end Rodimus's will prevailed."
"Because of this, Rodimus has trained himself to keep Unicron caged through will under even the most strenuous circumstances, including torture, but it does strain his soul. This strain, as we understand it from Twin Twist, causes Rodimus to age at a much faster rate than he should. This aging may soon start to become physically visible to us.
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Post by Tessan Toov on Apr 5, 2011 12:19:25 GMT -5
Twin Twist does what he does when someone's angry at him: he puts his dukes up. He has the nagging feeling that this is his fault somehow, that maybe he should just let Swerve slug him one, but he isn't going to be that soft in public. Maybe if he got to know Swerve over a six pack first, then Swerve would deserve face punching privileges.
But Swerve is headed off, anyway. Twin Twist still holds his ready stance for a moment.
Not... everyone knew here? That's why Rodimus Prime told him to be quiet? Twin Twist frowns and thinks about that. It's no good. He needs to discuss this with someone who has a real brain, like Topspin, Springer, or Impactor.
Yes. Impactor the zombie with a half-slagged brain module is still better at thinking than Twin Twist.
When Botanica talks about Rodimus Prime aging, Twin Twist mutters, "He gets better, anyway."
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Post by Lynn Deanna Payne on Apr 6, 2011 9:37:36 GMT -5
"This all huge crock," Bambi mutters to herself quietly. Bluh bluh bluh dark gods. Bambi doesn't buy any of it.
She is disappointed by the lack of fistfights, though. Science could use more melees. There could be Perceptor clubbing Skyfire with a folding chair and...
"Where him Perceptor, anyway?" Bambi asks more loudly.
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Post by Shanodin on Apr 9, 2011 12:53:27 GMT -5
"Perceptor is watching over Rodimus as the Prime heals. As my second, Perceptor was already privy to what we are discussing," Botanica says.
"And yes, Rodimus will get better as Twin Twist says. We're mentioning the aging because that is likely to become physically apparent in the near future."
Botanica smiles, and the smile is a shade grim, "Though I'd not start discounting his abilities just because of his age. He is Kup's protege after all."
"Are there any other questions or concerns?"
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